04 August 2025
The School for Government podcast
Exploring how government works—and how it could work better

In each episode, Professor Michael Sanders, Director of the School for Government at King’s College London, speaks with leading policy experts and practitioners from across the public sector, academia and industry. Together, they explore the inner workings of government, the biggest challenges it faces, and where the opportunities lie to make policy more effective, evidence-based, and citizen-focused.
Episode 2: Dr Olga Siemers
Dr Olga Siemers is an Associate Professor in Public Policy in the School for Government.
Her research looks at the intersection of government policy, decision-making and risk management in the context of global uncertainty and digital transformation.
Episode 1: Dame Tamara Finkelstein DCB
Tamara Finkelstein was Permanent Secretary at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs from 2019 to June 2025.
Tamara previously led the Building Safety Programme in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire at the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government.